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Cbv: /* A Quick History about GNUstep, NeXTSTEP and OpenStep */

2005-05-11T09:16:01Z

A Quick History about GNUstep, NeXTSTEP and OpenStep

Cbv: Updated GNUstep history part

2005-05-11T09:15:00Z

Updated GNUstep history part

Rio at 18:29, 10 May 2005

2005-05-10T18:29:31Z

WorkerII: Add Deeks last comment (this page needs some formatting still)

2005-05-10T13:53:15Z

Add Deeks last comment (this page needs some formatting still)

WorkerII at 13:47, 10 May 2005

2005-05-10T13:47:12Z

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<WorkerII> tarzeau: I don't quite understand .. there is 3 steps .. First was
proprietary NeXT STeP, I guess. Then GNUstep? Then OSI repsonse
OpenStep ?
<Deek> hmm?
<Deek> NeXTStep was the start. Later NeXT Computer, trying to broaden the
acceptance of their object tech, tried licensing it to IBM and others
as NextStep (while keeping their OS still, with the same capitalization
NeXTStep). Later they renamed the OS NeXTSTEP, but still the object
technology that they still hoped to license to other vendors was called
NextStep. About this time, some people wanted to port a program from
NeXT to, I believe, Sol
<Deek> aris, writing a lib called libobjcX which developed into GNUstep.
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<Deek> Through this time frame, NeXT developed a primeval Foundation Kit, and
the Enterprise Objects Framework (EOF) to replace their aging Database
Kit (dbkit). Sun was really interested in EOF, and through this
interest NeXT (now NeXT Software) managed to get them interested in an
updated version of their tech.
<tarzeau> WorkerII: i'd install gnustep gnustep-devel gnustep-games
<Deek> Together in October 1994, NeXT Software and Sun Microsystems published
the OpenStep specification, which was co-designed but at this point not
implemented by anyone.
<Deek> The next versions of Solaris and NeXTSTEP, renamed to OPENSTEP 4.0,
contained the new system.
<Deek> There are a TON of names for the damn things.
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<tarzeau> OMG gnustep-back 0.9.6 is there!
<Deek> However, OpenStep is not compatible with NextStep in either
direction. OpenStep was a brand-new thing, only based loosely on the
old "appkit" library.
<tarzeau> -gui 0.9.6 can't be far
<Deek> WorkerII: Enough (too much?) history? :)
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<Deek> Anyway, in '96 Apple Computer merged with NeXT Software with Apple
paying $400 million in cash (and, IIRC, stock). Soon after, NeXT people
took over key positions inside Apple, thus completing the "inverse
takeover". Apple released the in-progress OPENSTEP v4.2 as a "Prelude
to Rhapsody".
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<WorkerII> Deek: Still reading.
<Deek> Through all this, the OS itself remained a pretty-crappy BSD with a
nice, but rather different, GUI sitting on top of it. The BSD itself
was bolted into Mach, which was almost used as nothing but a bootloader.
<WorkerII> Lets f. this up on a wiki?
<Deek> Go ahead.
<Deek> there's one at wiki.gnustep.org :)
<WorkerII> Need login or?

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 updated version of their tech.
-GNUstep began when Paul Kunz and others at [http://www.slac.stanford.edu/ SLAC] wanted to port http://www.slac.stanford.edu/grp/ek/hippodraw/ HippoDraw] from NeXTSTEP to another platform. Instead of rewriting HippoDraw from scratch and reusing only the application design, they decided to rewrite the NeXTSTEP object layer which the application depended on. This was the first version of ''libobjcX''. It enabled them to port HippoDraw to Unix systems running the X Window System without changing a single line of their application source. After the OpenStep specification was released to the public in 1994, they decided to write a new ''objcX'' which would adhere to the new APIs. The software would become known as "GNUstep".
+GNUstep began when Paul Kunz and others at [http://www.slac.stanford.edu/ SLAC] wanted to port [http://www.slac.stanford.edu/grp/ek/hippodraw/ HippoDraw] from NeXTSTEP to another platform. Instead of rewriting HippoDraw from scratch and reusing only the application design, they decided to rewrite the NeXTSTEP object layer which the application depended on. This was the first version of ''libobjcX''. It enabled them to port HippoDraw to Unix systems running the X Window System without changing a single line of their application source. After the OpenStep specification was released to the public in 1994, they decided to write a new ''objcX'' which would adhere to the new APIs. The software would become known as "GNUstep".
 Together in October 1994, NeXT Software and Sun Microsystems published

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 NeXTStep). Later they renamed the OS NeXTSTEP, but still the object
 technology that they still hoped to license to other vendors was called
-NextStep. About this time, some people wanted to port a program from
+NextStep.
 Through this time frame, NeXT developed a primeval Foundation Kit, and
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 interest NeXT (now NeXT Software) managed to get them interested in an
 updated version of their tech.
 Together in October 1994, NeXT Software and Sun Microsystems published

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-<WorkerII> tarzeau: I don't quite understand .. there is 3 steps .. First was
+=== A Quick History about GNUstep, NeXTSTEP and OpenStep ===
-	   proprietary NeXT STeP, I guess.  Then GNUstep?  Then OSI repsonse
-	   OpenStep ?
+NeXTStep was the start. Later NeXT Computer, trying to broaden the
-<Deek> hmm?
+acceptance of their object tech, tried licensing it to IBM and others
-<Deek> NeXTStep was the start. Later NeXT Computer, trying to broaden the
+as NextStep (while keeping their OS still, with the same capitalization
-       acceptance of their object tech, tried licensing it to IBM and others
+NeXTStep). Later they renamed the OS NeXTSTEP, but still the object
-       as NextStep (while keeping their OS still, with the same capitalization
+technology that they still hoped to license to other vendors was called
-       NeXTStep). Later they renamed the OS NeXTSTEP, but still the object
+NextStep. About this time, some people wanted to port a program from
-       technology that they still hoped to license to other vendors was called
+NeXT to, I believe, Solaris, writing a lib called libobjcX which developed into GNUstep.
-       NextStep. About this time, some people wanted to port a program from
-       NeXT to, I believe, Sol
+Through this time frame, NeXT developed a primeval Foundation Kit, and
-<Deek> aris, writing a lib called libobjcX which developed into GNUstep.
+the Enterprise Objects Framework (EOF) to replace their aging Database
-*** WindowsUninstall (CENSORED) has joined
+Kit (dbkit). Sun was really interested in EOF, and through this
-    channel #gnustep
+interest NeXT (now NeXT Software) managed to get them interested in an
-<Deek> Through this time frame, NeXT developed a primeval Foundation Kit, and
+updated version of their tech.
-       the Enterprise Objects Framework (EOF) to replace their aging Database
-       Kit (dbkit). Sun was really interested in EOF, and through this
+Together in October 1994, NeXT Software and Sun Microsystems published
-       interest NeXT (now NeXT Software) managed to get them interested in an
+the OpenStep specification, which was co-designed but at this point not
-       updated version of their tech.
+implemented by anyone.
-<tarzeau> WorkerII: i'd install gnustep gnustep-devel gnustep-games
-<Deek> Together in October 1994, NeXT Software and Sun Microsystems published
+The next versions of Solaris and NeXTSTEP, renamed to OPENSTEP 4.0,
-       the OpenStep specification, which was co-designed but at this point not
+contained the new system.
-       implemented by anyone.
-<Deek> The next versions of Solaris and NeXTSTEP, renamed to OPENSTEP 4.0,
+There are a TON of names for the damn things.
-       contained the new system.
-<Deek> There are a TON of names for the damn things.
+However, OpenStep is not compatible with NextStep in either
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+direction. OpenStep was a brand-new thing, only based loosely on the
-    "General protection fault"
+old "appkit" library.
-<tarzeau> OMG gnustep-back 0.9.6 is there!
-<Deek> However, OpenStep is not compatible with NextStep in either
+Anyway, in '96 Apple Computer merged with NeXT Software with Apple
-       direction. OpenStep was a brand-new thing, only based loosely on the
+paying $400 million in cash (and, IIRC, stock). Soon after, NeXT people
-       old "appkit" library.
+took over key positions inside Apple, thus completing the "inverse
-<tarzeau> -gui 0.9.6 can't be far
+takeover". Apple released the in-progress OPENSTEP v4.2 as a "Prelude
-<Deek> WorkerII: Enough (too much?) history? :)
+to Rhapsody".
-*** llama32 (CENSORED) has quit: "Leaving"
-<Deek> Anyway, in '96 Apple Computer merged with NeXT Software with Apple
+Through all this, the OS itself remained a pretty-crappy BSD with a
-       paying $400 million in cash (and, IIRC, stock). Soon after, NeXT people
+nice, but rather different, GUI sitting on top of it. The BSD itself
-       took over key positions inside Apple, thus completing the "inverse
+was bolted into Mach, which was almost used as nothing but a bootloader.